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previously reported. the dow continues to fluctuate after hitting 14-thousand. the debt ceiling bill is now before the president after the senate passed a short-term debt limit suspension.the president is expected to sign it. what that means is the country will pay its bills and not default on its obligations thru may 18th. there's a catch to the bill. lawmakers have to pass a budget by april 15th or they won't get paid. since 2001, congress has raised the debt ceiling eleven times. the bill will increase the nation's 16-point-4 trillion dollar debt limit by about 450 billion dollars. coming up next the latest in alabma where a child hostage situation enters its fourth day. plus a student is in custody after opening fire inside a middle school in atlanta. and another cabinet member in president obama's administration announces his resignation. [ washer and dryer sounds ] for the things you can't wash, freshen them with febreze. febreze eliminates odors and leaves a light fresh scent. febreze, breathe happy. we're learning more about the alleged gunman who continues to hold a you
the debt ceiling might -- they kind of -- escaped armageddon over the debt ceiling but it's going to come sometime between now and june, correct? >> yes. absolutely. they're already going to deal with this sequester-related cuts on march 1st. the expiration of the cr at the end of march and then the debt ceiling may 1st i believe. so a lot of looming fiscal deadlines will be the next big thing. >> bill: if republicans agreed not to push for the massive spending cuts to social security and medicare for -- as a price for increasing the debt ceiling they're going to come back, right, with those same demands. at the next round. >> i don't think those demands are going away. part of the point of the short-term debt ceiling extension just passed last week was sort of to try and leverage their position in the sequester-related discussion of $1.2 trillion of autoic spending cuts set to kick in on march 1st which are delayed two months with the fiscal cliff deal. they're hoping to extract spending cuts from president obama. if not that fight, then in the next debt ceiling fight the next debt ceili
. the underlying bill that we're going to vote on in a little while suspends the debt ceiling for a period of time, as we all know. my amendment doesn't change that fact, but it addresses one of the consequences of that fact. the fact is, this bill suspends the debt ceiling, but it doesn't resolve the underlying problem. and so we're going to be back here in a few months with the same impasse that we've had in the past. what do we do about the mounting debt? what do we do about having reached the debt ceiling? and will twe we do anything abot curving the spending that is -- mr. baucus: madam president, the senate is not in order. the presiding officer: the senate will be in order. mr. toomey: so -- thank you, madam president. so, the fact is, we're going to be -- mr. baucus: madam president, madam president, the senate is not in order. the presiding officer: the senate will be in order. the senators shall take their conversations out of chamber. mr. toomey: thank you, madam president. so my point is that we're going to be back at this situation where we will have reached the debt limit once again.
be fun to use a government shutdown or a debt ceiling crisis to force further cuts. you guys sure know how to show a gal a good time. there's no question over the long term we have to balance budgets and pay down our debts, but short-term deficit hawkishness is hurting us badly right now. our problem is not relief for storm victims or federal money for family planning services, it's a tax base that's too low to support rising health care costs and an aging population over the long term. let's deal with those problems over the long term. but for now, congress, how about we just try to avoid shooting ourselves in the foot. i know blaming government for a lack of spending is not the type of blaming government that the gop usually enjoys, but in lean times it's the only type of blaming government that we can afford. you know what would really be great is some stimulus, but you understand that's probably too much to ask for. so for now let's just keep the government from reversing the private sector-led recovery that is already under way. all right. that does it for us here at the cycle and
with this sequester, it was a total disaster for them. then they decide not to fight on the debt ceiling and they need to move the attention on to something else. say they do have leverage elsewhere. so they have chosen sequester and put up a very brave face on it. it's possible they could convince themselves to let it actually happen but the idea that they get some sort of significant political gain from it, these are cuts they hated and they hated in large part because they hurt things they care about. so to permit the sequester to go forward on that kind of rationale is not a political win, not a policy win. everybody is losing. >> the "new york times" op-ed says more than a million jobs are on the line if this deal isn't made. a quote saying the losses will soon spread as contracts to states and cities are cut, education and police grants are cut, and payments to medicare providers are cut, even the aid just approved to victims of hurricane sandy will fall under the sequester's act. americans are about to find out what happens when an entire political party demands deficit reduction at all costs b
to extend the debt ceiling, but another budget battle could shut down the entire federal government. rich edson is lye on capitol hill for the fox business network. what's going on, rich? >> reporter: good afternoon, jon. in a couple of days, the senate will vote on a proposal to extend the debt ceiling out til may, so if the senate does, it heads to the white house for the president's signature, and that reorders the calendar of deadlines as far as spending is concerned, so next up would be the government spending cuts, the automatic spending cuts known as the sequester followed by march 27th a large chunk of government spending authority runs out. and without an agreement the, basically, no spending agreement there you'd have a government shutdown on may 18th, that's the next debt ceiling deadline if this does manage to pass the house and the u.s. senate and go to the president's desk for his signature. analysts are saying next up now is that big government spending fight dealing with the appropriations process, and it makes it more likely now with that up next that there could be a got
's $16.4 trillion debt ceiling until the middle of may. that bill also requires members of the house and senate to pass a budget by mid-april or have their pay withheld. >>> well, it didn't take long for the dow to fall under 14,000, which it hit on friday. stocks taking their biggest dive of the year yesterday on worries about european issues. the dow lost 129 points and the nasdaq was down 48. >>> u.s. government is suing credit rating agency standard & poor's. the justice department says the company gave high ratings to risky mortgage bonds and those bonds then plunged in value and contributed to the 2008 financial crisis. s&p denies any wrongdoing and says the lawsuit is without merit. the government is reportedly seeking penalties of more than $1 billion. >>> and if you are the average american, about 4% of your weekly paycheck is going into your gas tank. a new government report finds that u.s. households spent an average of $2,912 on gasoline last year. we are using less gas because vehicles are more fuel- efficient but we're paying a lot mo
with the debt ceiling negotiations. maybe some other kind of macroevent. last night saying to me, wouldn't it be ironic or weird if the big pest thing that happened hurricane the biggest fear of macromelt down never happened but instead what we got is boring old no growth? something nobody was really set up to deal with right now. that is not the dominant emotion. right now the jeep feeling is the bulls are still in charge. a lot of e-mails about siegel, jeremy siegel, 70% chance the dow will hit 15,000 this year. that was widely commented, to me at least, this morning. he sees a big increase in consumer spending. says the housing recovery is going to continue. home builders had good numbers but they are down. remember, the problem suspect the numbers they are reporting, it's the valuations. we've had pulte with good numbers, merit tash, the numbers, two times book for most of the home building companies. two times book for most of the home building companies. women pool, the guidance spectacular, 9.24 to 9.75. right now, still at 9.25. >> 19 1/2. >> to 19.75 on tri pointe homes. guys, b
you go to 2011 and see that seven months was dedicated to arguing about the debt ceiling. the debt ceiling, which does not one thing to add to the budget deficit. not one nickel of spenning, it's agreeing to pay the bill. we waited seven months and threaten ord credit rating. the american people are sick of that. they want action. they want their taxes low, as we just saw happen reinly in avoiding the fiscal cliff -- which came as i might add through bipartisanship. the republicanses came through with the table to what obama proposed and he compromised with raising it to the $4,000 level. that's the action that people want to see. >> speaking of our president, he said during obamacare, oh, you're premiums wouldn't be raised. sorry, david. that's exactly what we are seeing -- >> when 2014 comes along -- [overlapping dialogue] >> americans are not able to keep their health insurance. another thing the president promised. >> i have to say, after an absence of david being out, with personal issues and health issues, we are glad to see you back. >> it's a pleasure to be back. >> happy t
with this recent debt ceiling vote. i think, basically, business is going to have to come forward like with regard to the debt ceiling and say look, you can't do this. you are going to wreck the economy of the united states and wreck the economy of the world. i'm hoping that we won't get there. but, alex, i have to tell you, it would not shock me if we do. >> okay. let's switch gears. on the heels of the senate confirmation hearing for chuck hagel, has the political climate changed with the new members of congress on board? >> well, you know, with regard -- first of all, with regard to chuck hagel, the media basically reported that he got beaten up pretty bad. i didn't see it that way. i thought he held his own. i anticipate that we will have a lot of motion, commotion and emotion but chuck hagel will be confirmed. he'll do a great job. after all, the president should have the persons he wants to carry out his policy. i think that will be the case. with regard to the new congress, we have to have a wait and see situation. the number of tea partiers lost their seats. they're still a strong force in
't lose those spending cuts. that was to pay for the last debt ceiling increase, let aloney future increases. we're not interested in shutting government down. what happens on march 1, spending goes down automatically. march 27th is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, how to grow the economy, how to create economic opportunity. >> all right. now let's put this in context and think about what congressman ryan from wisconsin is really saying. republicans backed off their debt limit threat because they knew it was a political loser. and now they seem to be backing off their threat to shut down the government. sequester? well, that's another matter. if congress does nothing, the cuts take effect. republicans don't want defense cuts, but they might be willing to stomach those cuts because domestic programs would also get slashed, including medicare. and that's what republicans really want. let's turn to barney frank, former mass
would be that much under the debt limit. plus, the debt ceiling simply says we're not going to pay our bills. it just is illogical to say that's to pay for that. that's like going out and incurring costs which all of us did, republicans and democrats together, and then saying oh, and by the way, i'm not going to pay my bill unless you do me this enormous favor. but the other point i would make is this. he talks about, we need tax reform. the biggest single abuse in the tax code today, and it's a tough contest, is the one that says the richest people in america who run hedge funds can treat their earned income as if it were a capital gain. they call it carried interest. >> yeah. >> it means the rest of us are carrying them. and we voted to reduce that. and paul ryan boxed it. he is against that. and if you remember from that interview, he did not give a single specific about a tax break he wants to end, and he talked about cutting entitlements. >> he is up front saying no more revenue. i mean, that's their position on that. now, they've backed off the debt limit. now they're backing off
the debt ceiling compromise passed the senate. that's a fiscal crisis temporarily averted. it comes just a day after we learn that gdp, that's the mesh shush of how well our economy is performing, contracted by 0.1%. here is how some of the financial media covered it. quote, the best looking contraction in gdp you will ever see. and, quote, don't freak out about gdp. so what's going on here? less government spending happened. primarily in defense. that overshadowed more spending on the part of consumers and businesses, which is what these reporters were actually looking at. for more we go to jared bernstein a senior fellow on the center of budget and policy priorities and jonathan capehart a political opinion writer for "the washington post." welcome to both of you. >> thanks, karen. >> okay, jared. you know i like to come to you with these kinds of things. say what? it's good but it's bad? explain that one to me. >> well, sure. i mean, i already knew we were growing slowly. in fact, i'd say too slowly. i didn't think the economy was actually contracting before yesterday's report for the
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, a major funding bill expires. the debt ceiling fight will resurface in the summer. >>> new polls showing the nra's opposition to reforming certain gun laws isn't registering with the american public. according to polling, more than 90% of voters in three states say they support wider background checks for people buying weapons at gun shows. that includes voters who live in households with a gun. when it comes to the question of armed police in schools, more voters in virginia, new jersey, and pennsylvania support the idea than oppose it. the board of education in new it is town, connecticut, is requesting funding for armed police officers in four elementary schools for the next school year. in chicago, meanwhile, mayor rahm emanuel is moving 200 officers from desk duty to the streets amid the city's most violent months in decades. 42 people have been murdered this year including 15-year-old who was shot dead this week while hanging out with friends in a park. >> when any young person in our city is gunned down without reason, their death makes an impression on all of us. and it demands a
. they just put off the debt ceiling problems down the road. sequestration still happening on march 1, that hasn't gone anywhere, yet this study says 57% of small business owners expect the financial situation to be buried to so much good. both are the same number of jobs at their company makes your year overall as there were last year was to me is very optimistic. but they just happen to not be firing anyone. if that optimism? >> what is happening, you technically feel better, but you still have eye problems. optimism is not here. a look at the projections and say we can make this happen. we're reminded we have to keep for a few weeks longer. melissa: you have to have a lot of courage, and perhaps things have been tough for so long it is kind of the new normal, the new year, maybe they are marginally better or a lot better, i don't know. am i getting anywhere? >> you're right, have to be optimistic optimism. melissa: talking to one of the fundamental problems which is people being overeducated for the job they have. almost everybody has a bachelor's degree of some type, you can get t
that had already been approved in the house that extended the debt ceiling until late this summer. it was the right thing to do. it was the right thing to extend the debt ceiling of our nation because it allows us to pay the bills that we have already incurred. there isn't one dime of new spending that's authorized under the legislation we approved. my only regret is that we didn't extend it for a longer period of time, giving greater certainty to the financial markets. for you see that if we were to ever violate the debt ceiling, the consequences would be that the taxpayers of this country would have to pay more for the obligations of our nation and interest costs. it would permanently damage the reputation of this nation as far as our ability to pay our bills. it would be counterproductive to everything we're trying to do to help the taxpayers of america. so it was the right thing for us to do to extend the debt ceiling, but we still have a lot more work we need to do. our current accumulation of debt is not sustainable. we can't continue to spend what we're spending today and c
managers are telling washington right now. let's take a look at the next idea about the debt ceiling debate. i think this is a really important finding here, guys. we ask do you think congress is going to increase the debt ceiling every time it's reached, refuse to raise it at some point and don't know? you can see 86% are saying that congress will raise the debt ceiling every time it's reached this year, when i think about some of the reasons why stocks have gotten higher because i think that thread along with the fiscal cliff has come out of the market and that there's overwhelming sentiment that coss i solve the get problem. we asked wall street to grade our treasury secretary going out and one coming in. you can see a pretty strong sentiment that he was a seed secretary with a 2.2. jack lew, the sentiment there. 2.0. one more thing on the deficit i just want to say and maybe this is worthy of discussion here. i think this is a sign that things have improved, at these economists and guys on wall street are saying we should solve the deficit and do it now. i think if things were as bad as
or the debt ceiling. they get the problems down the road-- >>> that's the problem -- >> well, joe. that is true. but the point about small business driving the economy. what is the biggest impediment? $1 trillion in new taxes that the president has imposed and also obamacare. let's be honest. the senate democrats don't move without the white house's okay -- >> well, actually i. the president needs to pass a budget and get serious, honestly about the debt and the regulation. he has 6,000 new regulations on the epa web site that i promise are going to hinder small business growth. i agree with you. both parties are to claim. but the president needs to take an honest look in the mirror. >> eric: how do we break this? where do you go for daylight? how do we get rid of the gridlock? >> if i could, thank you. i think we need to look at this in perspective. we know during the bush era, there were more epa regulations passed in the first four years of president obama's tenure. the real issue is, what small businesses want is access to capital. we have $4 tril trillion in our banks and our
. the president to so confidently told congress last month that he would refuse to negotiate on the debt ceiling is now looking for that same congress to bail him out. president obama desperate for help with the trillion dollars sequester that was the bright idea of the white house. the president today made his plea for help in deferring the onset of the sequestered for another few months. it sounds a lot more like an order for more of the same short term, small minded fakes that has become the way washington of late. >> this congress cannot act immediately on a bigger package. if they cannot get a bigger package done by that time the sequester is scheduled fox business to affect then i believe they should at least passed a smaller package of spending cuts and tax reforms that would delay the economically damaging effects of a sequester for fear -- few more months. lou: headed in the right direction icaria statement considering that it contracted the last quarter, and as he is fond of doing, insisted that republicans give him something for the privilege of doing his bidding. he wants more revenu
on the debt ceiling so that it's not fiscal crisis day-in and day-out and we are talking about some other issues that are important. immigration, gun violence. ists to talk about the political dimension of those. come from calf, i have working on the immigration reform and the border problem for 25 years about it looks leak the time has finally, come for this legislation to happen this year. >> politically, is this the time when it could happen? >> yeah. i think it is the time i also think the structure in washington is difficult for the following reason. 1994, he was at the democratic congressional campaign committee. i got sent to help speaker tom folley in a tough race. he was very sure you his support of the assault weapons ban cost him 9,000 votes from people who would always be for him and across the more splinterred districts in the house places where guns you can't get past this. you can't have a rational conversation with people because it's more like religion. there are people who can stop whatever big bill you have going because because of this. >> t
the debt ceiling. if republicans had gone into this issue and said they would not raise the debt ceiling unless they got cuts, there would have lost that the raid at the end. big loss that debate. john boehner and paul rand did a great job together. you cannot govern from that office, you but you have to be very careful about high-profile last-minute negotiations. i've worked in the white house and three administrations. the president has a tremendous institutional advantage in these kinds of fights. what republicans have to do is avoid these fights, the straps that they are laying. provide an alternative through passing legislation, just to show this is how they would govern if they had the powers of the presidency and the senate. and be careful. there are some rough edges. host: some are not strategy as far as moving the debt ceiling ahead. guest: if they had gone ahead with it, it would have been politically cataclysmic. it was the worst percival -- worst possible ground to make their point. president obama 1. i think it's absolutely crucial for the future of the country that you cann
depress the consumer confidence. so has the behavior of washington. we've had the debt ceiling suspended, another budget baths to go through. so investors, businessmen and even individual investors and consumers are still somewhat haunted by what's happening in the nation's capital. >> and if we could put the markets gain back up, we had seen it go above 14,000 earlier this morning. it's -- >> right there. >> right there, right now. okay. so this hasn't happened since '07. >> early october, the all-time high, 14,164. standard & poor's, 1465. we're within striking distance of both. and that's a good sign. the stock market is performing well. the bond market is performing as expected, if the economy is recovering and so are other markets. and the indicators i look atom as, actually quite positive. none showing signs of strain, the future economic prospects better than the past. so for now markets are tell us things are all right. that may change sometime in the future but looks good at this at the moment. >> and ron made fun of my ravens -- >> absolutely. >> see this? ravens-theme note pap
. >> well, the president just signed the bill that raises the debt ceiling. so in an age where these fiscal fights are, they're the same, they're ongoing, they can be insecendiary incendiary, we're always talking about a government shutdown of one kind or another, where does this leave us? >> it leaves us with a bunch of people who just fought the first fight, and the senate democrats are going to annapolis today and tomorrow to try to figure out, how do we move forward? how do we move forward with a budget? how do we move forward on funding the government? both of those things need to be done by april 15th. >> because they have taken some hits. and do they really want to give republicans anymore ammunition? >> that's why they've said, we're going to do a budget. and they were happy to sign the increase, meant they had a deadline of april 15th, where they don't get paid, and they have to get a budget done. >> always a good incentive there. >> so democrats understand that they need that, but this is going to be a partisan document by and large, saying, here's our spending priorities. democra
to come out then about mid may is the extension of the debt ceiling. but come back to your answer here, is that the motivation for harry reid not to produce a budget, he doesn't want to offend people? >> they d want to produce a budget because it makes you make choices. coming out of the 2010 election he was afraid and they were afraid of loosing their majority. they ae avoided every tough issue. we hardly did anything in the senate. when you have to budget you have to make decisions you can't speak in platte taoudz. that's why they've avoided doing a budget. think their time is up. they said they are going to produce a budget this year. that's important. look what we did this paul ryan's budget and how they beat it up. that's why they didn't want to produce one of their own. bill: it's my assumption that the senate produces a budget in april and it goes to the house and they say we are not moving on that. >> the normal process begins of negotiates where the two sides have to reconcile their differences in what they call a conference. this is the way this place is supposed to work not
president has ever had -- what president has ever had the hostage-taking of the debt ceiling so you can't write a budget if there are individuals in the congress that won't do the normal business which is to raise the debt ceiling so that the american people can be taken care of? as we speak, however, the president has introduced today a short-term fix to avert the sequester. the democrats have offered a way of avoiding the sequester. we have nothing from the republicans except a resolution that says a request for a plan. the very plan that the president knows by law he's going to submit as long as he knows what is the amount of money we have to work on and of course the budgeting process is going through the house, the chairman of the budget, mr. ryan, the ranking member of the budget, mr. van hollen. we all know the regular order. we are going to do our work. but putting us on the floor today and ignoring what we should be doing, i'm saddened that my amendment that indicated i wanted to make sure that the most vull vulnerable in any budget, -- vulnerable in any budget, 21% of our nati
of the debt ceiling vote to do wait has not done in the last four years and that is present a budget resolution for four years the senate said we don't care if the law requires us to do it. we'll ignore that. martha: let's hope dave camp's proposal of taking on tax reform is something republicans have been talking about for a long time. chinned with the fact that the senate must act on a budget must get us into tangibles in terms of this discuss in washington. carl, thank you so much. always good to talk to you. gregg: disturbing information about iran's nuclear program. martha: this is one of the most interesting moments of the game. the light went out. i thought this was a blowout game and the next thing you know -- a firsthand account from what it was like at the stadium from a familiar football fan. hey, it's me, progressive insurance. you know, from our 4,000 television commercials. yep, there i am with flo. hoo-hoo! watch it! [chuckles] anyhoo, 3 million people switched to me last year, saving an average of $475. [sigh] it feels good to help people save... with great discounts
,000 to $80,000. a significant jump. washington raised the debt ceiling at least temporarily. home sales are up, home prices up 5.5% from a year ago. the economy is still growing at a relatively slow pace. the monthly jobs report due out friday is expected to show that the unemployment numbers have not budged. >>> now to a developing story overnight. a new doping scandal in sports. this time, major league baseball. officials are investigating a report in a florida newspaper that claims that yankees star alex rodriguez, nationals pitcher gio gonzalez, and four others were sold performance-enhancing drugs in the last four years by a clinic in florida. gonzalez and rodriguez have already issued statements denying links to the clinics. our sources at espn with saying the yankees are now trying to void the remainder of alex rodriguez's contract. >>> a new revelation in the dreamliner investigation. the plane has been grounded. we've learned boeing was told about repeated problems with the batteries months before one of them caught fire in boston. however, safety regular lay laters did not hav
had earmarked for the equity market. we have avoided the fiscal cliff posted on the debt ceiling. earnings are decent, decent economic indicators here and outside the u.s. on balance is good, not everyone of them. we have central bankers all over the world, but begging for reflation putting money in the system and a lot of cash getting zero return and those things i think are the reason the stock is likely to continue going. connell: that is the last one i want to pick up on because reading your most recent numbers is lack of tolerance for the cash balances giving a zero return, so people do look and say i can't get a return for a decent yield on anything, so i would rather be in stocks than any kind of fixed income class. if any of that changing in the future, and if so at what point? interest rates have to go up some point, don't they? >> i think they will continue to creep higher, but they can't go a lot higher because the economy would then weekend. so i think as we globalize and the rate race will continue hig, but a lot of cash out there saying when things were volatile in
overseas. your push right now is getting it back home. >> with the fiscal cliff and debt ceiling and trying to get bipartisan, but over here is something called poverty, 50 million americans and racial disparity and cities collapsing and the like. i'm going to make the case we should build america an urban infrastructural bank for the purpose of long-term loans. we do it in europe and japan. and no other country charges people to repatriate their money once they pay taxes in that country. but we do. but if we, in fact, took a portion of that money, part for research and development and part of it for an institutional bank, you could do what banks are not doing, and that's invest in these downtrodden areas of our country. >> gillian, we've been talking about it for years, trillions of dollars sitting on the sidelines not coming back to america. how do we get it back here? >> almost $2 trillion. you've got average household earnings down over the past four years, poverty is up. we need this money working in our economy. how do we get it here? >> absolutely. i think the reverend's idea is very
resolution and postponed debt ceiling decision. which shouldn't be a decision. and all you have been hearing from the majority in the house and the republicans in the senate is austerity, austerity, cuts, cuts and avoiding the whole discussion of the fact that those -- that attitude and philosophy is only going to worsen the economy if the sequestration goes through, that is 660,000 jobs lost the first year and the balancing act is about creating revenue and creating revenue from sources that should be on the table, but aren't being discussed on the table. balancing act is about investment in this term with jobs, education, r&d's in order to grow and stin the recovery we are on. investment in this term. and we all recognize the deficit is an issue, but an issue over a long-term and the balancing act by repealing sequestration, creates for us in this country an opportunity to continue to recover and stabilize our economy, invest in things that we need for the future and put on the table revenue that is not there that needs to be part of the revenue generation that we need in order to deal wit
of this coalition. host: how did you vote on the debt ceiling issue? guest: i did vote for the no budget, no pay bill. i believe it is an important principle. i just left this weekend, handing copies out in the district. people think that we have to stop spending money that we do not have. as i mentioned, budgets are not the sexiest topic. it is difficult to get 1 million people to march on the capital because we do not have a budget, but what families, small- business owners, church leaders, school board members understand is that if you do not have a budget, you spend more. it is remarkable what has, on. in some ways the bill was a gimmick, but within a few hours patty murray held a press conference announcing that we would pass a budget this year. i think that that is vital in bringing together some sort of compromise over the course of the next several months. it is difficult to have legitimate policy discussions without numbers to look at. host: congressman luke messer, from the sixth district of indiana. woodbridge, virginia, democratic line. hello. caller: i want to address people who say
with the kind of spending reforms necessary to secure a longer extension of the debt ceiling. that extra time will give us a chance to break the democrats' other bad habit of leaving everything, literally everything until the last minute. but we can only do it if we get to work now and return to what we call around here the regular order. remember, regular order is how the senate is supposed to function. committees are supposed to be allowed to evaluate legislation. amendments are supposed to be considered, and the public is supposed to have a chance to scrutinize the proposals that are actually before us. look, i know that solving the debt challenge is not going to be easy. putting our country on a sustainable fiscal and economic path is going to require both parties committing to serious spending reforms. but this is a challenge we must overcome. by doing the hard work today, we can avoid a european-style catastrophe tomorrow. by reforming the functions of government that no longer make sense in 2013, we can do more than just control spending. we can encourage private sector growth and job
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